1 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:18,930 Tim Van Norman: Hello, everyone got just a minute or two before 2 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:20,130 it'll start. So. 3 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:53,580 I love the backgrounds I'm seeing from people. It's nice to 4 00:00:53,580 --> 00:00:59,730 see some creativity. I'm not creative but you know. 5 00:01:06,930 --> 00:01:09,300 Actually, if I opened the blinds, you would see that yes, 6 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:19,140 I am actually on campus. So it is all working out. 7 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,060 Donna, there are days I feel like that. Yes. So if you guys 8 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:40,450 didn't catch that, there's a bunch of stuff going on in the 9 00:01:40,450 --> 00:01:45,310 chat and feel free, by the way throughout this whole thing to 10 00:01:45,340 --> 00:01:49,480 put stuff in the chat. I will, I'm usually not very good at 11 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:56,110 following the chat. I'm trying to learn to do better but I will 12 00:01:56,110 --> 00:01:59,770 ask everybody to go ahead and type your name in into the chat 13 00:01:59,830 --> 00:02:05,230 that way all gets recorded. And then, if anybody ever asked me 14 00:02:05,230 --> 00:02:09,460 in the future, who was in here, I actually have a written list. 15 00:02:09,490 --> 00:02:16,930 So thank you, I do appreciate it and you guys should be seeing 16 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,820 Fall 2020 PD Week Media in the Classroom on your screen? Is 17 00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:32,680 that the case? Excellent. Excellent. Thank you. So we're 18 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,680 in this weird online environment where things are not as we would 19 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,420 want, necessarily and so there's a lot of different things that 20 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:48,880 we like to do. We've got when we're doing presentations, when 21 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,740 we're, frankly, when when you're wanting to teach your class 22 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:59,770 live, we're using media of some kind and this media can be a lot 23 00:02:59,770 --> 00:03:04,390 of different types. It can be audio only, video, and frankly, 24 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:09,130 written is completely valid media as well. So we need to 25 00:03:09,130 --> 00:03:11,920 think about a lot of different things as we do this. We're 26 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:17,530 going to focus much more today on video, and audio, but mostly 27 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,370 the video portion of that because in reality, that's what 28 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:23,680 most people are thinking of when they hear media in the 29 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:29,980 classroom. So why do we use media? When are we going to use 30 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:33,820 media how to record where to store and using media in the 31 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:36,910 classroom? Are some of the main topics that I'm going to go 32 00:03:36,910 --> 00:03:42,070 ahead and cover? So first of all, why? Realistically, I look 33 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:46,150 at my son, my oldest, my youngest son is 20 years old, 34 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:50,230 turns 21 in a couple of months, he's looking forward to that. 35 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:58,330 He's actually a student here at IVC and I watch him and he will 36 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:04,030 wander the house with the phone and hear earphones and what is 37 00:04:04,030 --> 00:04:06,400 he doing the whole time he's watching something on YouTube. 38 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:12,310 They're spending so much time consuming video, that that's 39 00:04:12,310 --> 00:04:18,490 often a way to engage them. Short videos work really well, 40 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,480 they really don't want to see a three hour video, but you know 41 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,660 what, if it's important to them, they'll get that on the flip 42 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:31,720 side. Many of them, and I'm over generalizing, but you get the 43 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:37,840 point. Many do not like reading. I'm the opposite. Give me a 44 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,070 book, give me something in writing with pictures, and I'm 45 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:46,540 in heaven. Give me a video and well, I'll get to it sometime. 46 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:51,670 All right. Give me straight audio, a podcast, something like 47 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:55,630 that. I can listen to that in my car that works, but give me a 48 00:04:55,630 --> 00:05:00,100 video that I have to watch and it's a lot harder for me to do 49 00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:06,010 this but on the other hand, if I'm going to watch a video, 50 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:13,150 because of my tendency to read, I actually love captioning. I 51 00:05:13,150 --> 00:05:18,940 didn't think I would and so my daughter was on a cruise ship, 52 00:05:18,970 --> 00:05:23,470 many of you know about that she worked for Disney Cruise and, 53 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:28,540 she, whenever she watched something, because she was 54 00:05:28,540 --> 00:05:32,050 sharing a room with somebody, you know, that other person 55 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:34,870 might be sleeping, so she always had to have the captioning on 56 00:05:35,170 --> 00:05:38,290 and that made a difference for her, she came home and all of a 57 00:05:38,290 --> 00:05:41,290 sudden, captionings on on every single one of our shows that 58 00:05:41,290 --> 00:05:43,570 were watching or something like that, because she just turned it 59 00:05:43,570 --> 00:05:51,700 on on the TV. So we went in, so I started getting used to that 60 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:55,420 and now when I don't have that going, I'll go, I'll stop the 61 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:59,680 show, and turn it, turn it on and I find actually I learned 62 00:05:59,710 --> 00:06:04,330 I've get more out of whatever I'm doing because of that. So, 63 00:06:05,170 --> 00:06:10,480 to me, it's engaging that other. That other component that helps 64 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,060 me get more out of what's happening. So it's more 65 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:18,310 engagement, their relationships, they students can relate to a 66 00:06:18,310 --> 00:06:22,240 face, they can relate to a person who's who's involved, 67 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:25,570 it's a lot harder for them to relate when nobody's there, and 68 00:06:25,570 --> 00:06:26,620 they don't see anybody. 69 00:06:28,970 --> 00:06:35,570 So the next part of the why use is from the teachers, you can 70 00:06:35,570 --> 00:06:37,820 get to know your students, by the way your students can be 71 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:41,780 doing the video too. This is not one sided, I don't want this to 72 00:06:41,780 --> 00:06:46,970 be you create everything and now you don't you know, and you 73 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:51,200 don't know who the students are, get to know them and use video, 74 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,320 for instance, creatively that way. It also allows you some 75 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,430 creativity and it allows the students creativity, because 76 00:06:58,430 --> 00:07:00,800 they're going to come up with something that you're not 77 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,590 expecting and, and just from that perspective, it can really 78 00:07:06,590 --> 00:07:10,550 make your life more interesting. I mean, writing the same paper 79 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,170 20 times for a class is very different than grading something 80 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:18,590 that somebody put some creativity into. So it's nice to 81 00:07:18,590 --> 00:07:24,230 do that and it also allows you if you're creating the videos to 82 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:28,250 get better explanations, because you're going to think about it 83 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:35,210 and you can keep them short plus you can stop and rerecord. So 84 00:07:35,210 --> 00:07:41,870 let me do something here. One of the nice things is if you use G 85 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:46,850 Suite, to present you can also turn on captioning and so if you 86 00:07:46,850 --> 00:07:50,600 take a look at the top of your screen, you now see auto 87 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:57,470 captioning. This helps, it is not 100% what we want, okay, 88 00:07:58,100 --> 00:08:03,200 this is not the captioning that works for 508 compliance, when 89 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,410 you're when you are having it recorded, pre recorded or 90 00:08:09,410 --> 00:08:16,250 anything like that. But this does really help. So do you have 91 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:19,250 to show your face when you're recording a video? No. In fact, 92 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:23,030 if you look at the majority of mine, I don't. It's just my 93 00:08:23,030 --> 00:08:31,940 preference there. So when can you use media? Yes, I know right 94 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:38,360 now we're in? I'll answer your question in a second Roopa. I 95 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,580 know that we're in an online environment and so the part on 96 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,090 the left with the classroom for showing a video demonstrating a 97 00:08:47,090 --> 00:08:50,660 topic outside speaker student presentations, discussions, you 98 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:55,310 might go "Oh, well, we can't do that online," but actually, you 99 00:08:55,310 --> 00:08:59,030 can do every single one of those online, you can show a video 100 00:08:59,030 --> 00:09:02,330 right now I could pop into a screen and demonstrate and have 101 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:06,080 a video showing of whatever it is that you that I would like, 102 00:09:06,830 --> 00:09:10,010 you can demonstrate something and the nice part is if you've 103 00:09:10,010 --> 00:09:14,000 got it in video, you can then flip it around and let them 104 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,170 watch it later. So when I taught a face to face class, I use 105 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:23,870 Canvas and anytime a student asked me a question in class, I 106 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:26,660 put a video to answer that question. I would answer the 107 00:09:26,660 --> 00:09:30,740 question, but then I put a video to answer that question in the 108 00:09:31,940 --> 00:09:37,580 in Canvas for them to work with us to answer Roopa's question, 109 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:40,970 how did I do this? If you watch the screen at the bottom, when I 110 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:44,930 move the mouse Do you see a black bar come up? Okay, in the 111 00:09:44,930 --> 00:09:49,520 black bar, there's something that says captions and I just I 112 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,030 turned it on and there's some options that I've got text 113 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:57,680 position top or bottom and the text size extra large, medium, 114 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:05,660 small or large. So I had chosen that before and so then I just 115 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:10,490 turned on captions. Now this is in G Suite. It specifically in 116 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:13,460 Google Slides, one of the reasons that I have converted 117 00:10:13,460 --> 00:10:18,140 and gone to Google Slides for all of my presentations, is 118 00:10:18,140 --> 00:10:23,660 that. So. Brett, I can't tell if you're raising your hand or if 119 00:10:23,660 --> 00:10:29,930 you are, okay and Virginia, you've got your hand up just a 120 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:39,590 second, you should be able to unmute yourself. If not, I will unmute you. Sorry. 121 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:53,150 Go ahead and try to unmute yourself then. Sorry. 122 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:57,920 Virginia Shank: I feel really silly now. Because I have the 123 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,040 same question as everybody else. That's why my hand was raised. So 124 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:01,580 Tim Van Norman: Oh, okay. 125 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:02,300 Virginia Shank: Thank you. 126 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:06,980 Tim Van Norman: On the Google slide, captioning, Okay, good, 127 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,000 excellent. This is something that came out about a year ago 128 00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:21,290 and so, that's what I transitioned. Donna King has an 129 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:24,140 interesting comment, thing you don't like about Google Slides 130 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:27,290 is limited fonts, we'll get into the fonts and stuff like that in 131 00:11:27,290 --> 00:11:33,440 a little bit. I can understand that statement. Alright, so when 132 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,750 else can you use media, in Canvas itself, under pages, 133 00:11:38,750 --> 00:11:42,260 assignments, quizzes, discussions, comments, any place 134 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:46,910 that you have the rich text editor, or rich content editor, 135 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:51,470 you can put, you can record directly into Canvas, you can 136 00:11:51,470 --> 00:12:02,030 also upload a pre recorded video at that point. It's, it's really 137 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:07,280 a nice advantage to the way they've got that set up to allow 138 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,780 you to have so many different options and I'm going to 139 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:15,410 actually ask you not to use a couple of options. because, 140 00:12:15,770 --> 00:12:21,500 frankly, Section 508 Compliance, like I was talking about before, 141 00:12:21,770 --> 00:12:26,120 I love captioning now and if it's captioned, there's nothing 142 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,440 that I can do. There's many of those, are a couple of those 143 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:40,190 things that we cannot have captioned. So alright. So, video 144 00:12:40,190 --> 00:12:44,180 options at IVC for recording and I'm on purpose breaking this 145 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:48,770 into two different sections, because while some of it kind of 146 00:12:48,770 --> 00:12:53,300 overlaps a little bit, um, we've got some tools that are really 147 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:57,260 nice that actually do each of those jobs independently better 148 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:02,540 than many of the tools do that do both. So ConferZoom has the 149 00:13:02,540 --> 00:13:06,470 ability to Zoom, ConferZoom has the ability to record your 150 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:09,740 videos, you can also stream from there, which is great because 151 00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:12,740 they give you a link and you can click on that link, you can edit 152 00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:18,290 the the transcript that shows up on the right. The problem is 153 00:13:18,290 --> 00:13:24,590 that if you use ConferZoom, for streaming, there's a limited 154 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,460 amount of time that those videos are going to be there. So if 155 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:30,800 you're just doing it for a lecture for this semester, 156 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:35,120 great. If you're doing it for a lecture or for something that 157 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 you're going to use over and over again, pull it out of 158 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,030 ConferZoom, and then we'll talk about the storage areas in just 159 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:45,290 a moment. PowerPoint, this is my least favorite of the ones that 160 00:13:45,290 --> 00:13:48,710 I'm going to tell you about today and the reason is because 161 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,720 you can record in PowerPoint, so you've got your PowerPoint 162 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,700 slides up you record step by step and it will record per 163 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:02,570 slide your audio and then the next slide the audio for that 164 00:14:02,570 --> 00:14:05,540 and the next slide the audio for that. The thing that I don't 165 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:09,710 like about it is that many people don't then convert it to 166 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:14,810 mp4 if you don't convert it to mp4, captioning as an issue, as 167 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:18,170 well as the fact that many students unless they actually 168 00:14:18,170 --> 00:14:21,770 have PowerPoint, they if they have PowerPoint, they have to 169 00:14:21,770 --> 00:14:27,350 download the PowerPoint to their device, including their cell 170 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:32,480 phone before they can play it. It doesn't stream. If it's mp4 171 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,540 it will stream and so they don't take up this space on their 172 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:40,910 device and those PowerPoints. I did one earlier today. That was 173 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:46,370 a gig, a PowerPoint because it had an embedded video in it. So 174 00:14:46,490 --> 00:14:51,050 they get really big really fast and I don't know about you, but 175 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:54,920 I don't have unlimited space on my phones. I don't have that 176 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,490 Google option that claims to have unlimited space, and many 177 00:14:58,490 --> 00:15:01,610 of our students are running out of space. All the time, so I 178 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:04,370 prefer not to use that but I want you to know about it 179 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:12,170 Screencast-o-Matic, all right, I will let you know something that 180 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:19,910 is brand new. I'm so new, in fact, that a week and a half 181 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:23,960 ago, we didn't have it. I had it and nobody else and that's 182 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,760 because I paid for it myself. In just a moment, I'm going to put 183 00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:42,110 in our in the chat a link to got to find the right link here to 184 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:47,690 where you can go and yes, you can get Screencast-o-Matic paid 185 00:15:47,690 --> 00:15:53,840 for by Irvine Valley College. It is in the chat. Okay. This is 186 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:59,720 like I said, brand new. I got it. Like I said, like a week and 187 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,300 a half ago that I got the information. So 188 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:08,510 I said, I said it only to one person. Sorry about that. Brent 189 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:15,350 Monti, you got it. Now to everybody else. Virginia, thank 190 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:21,800 you for letting me know. So we've got a number of licenses, 191 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,460 it's not quite a site license, don't worry about it, we're, 192 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:28,730 we've got the ability to handle whatever we need to, but 193 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:32,390 Screencast-o-Matic is what I use for a lot of my videos, the 194 00:16:32,390 --> 00:16:36,260 thing I like about it is I can cut a portion of my screen, the 195 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:41,090 whole screen, whatever I want and just record that, it allows 196 00:16:41,090 --> 00:16:48,530 you to record your screen, your webcam, or both and you can 197 00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:52,430 switch back and forth and it does very simple editing. So if 198 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:55,940 you really like Camtasia, then you're not going to like this 199 00:16:55,940 --> 00:17:00,410 because it's too simple. Um, I don't like Camtasia because it's 200 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:03,500 too complicated. I've never made Camtasia work right for me. 201 00:17:03,530 --> 00:17:09,470 Okay, so I'm limited that way. So that said, this allows me to, 202 00:17:10,370 --> 00:17:14,540 to do all the most of the videos that I do, and I love how fast I 203 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:17,900 can get them started and I can go through them. It also will 204 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:21,380 auto caption your videos for you. So you can go back through 205 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:23,660 and it's pretty decent, you could actually go back through 206 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:29,090 and correct them pretty well and then you can use Canvas. Again, 207 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:33,290 I had talked about Canvas before with recording. Good idea not to 208 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:39,380 do it directly in Canvas because it's really hard to it's really 209 00:17:39,380 --> 00:17:45,050 hard to get that captioning done. To Diana Hurlbut point, 210 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,050 "don't like the fact you have to do transcript editing takes too 211 00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:51,950 much time." The beauty of Screencast-o-Matic is when you 212 00:17:51,950 --> 00:17:54,830 record it, you can save it and then you can upload it to 213 00:17:54,830 --> 00:18:00,080 3CMedia my next step, which is streaming, and then that file 214 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:06,620 can that mp4 file can be loaded into 3CMedia and you can select 215 00:18:06,620 --> 00:18:12,470 to have it captioned. So thank you, Diana for the transition. 216 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:15,890 So now we're talking about storage of videos and why 217 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,050 particularly my preference for all of these is store them in 218 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:26,210 3CMedia. Okay, 3CMedia, 3C California Community Colleges. 219 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,290 It's sponsored by the California Community Colleges, you retain 220 00:18:30,290 --> 00:18:36,740 the rights to your video. There limit is theoretically unlimited 221 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:44,570 number of videos, but each video can be no more than one gig and 222 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,720 so like I said, the the PowerPoint that I had loaded 223 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:51,620 earlier, if I switched it to mp4 and it happened to be the same 224 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:57,140 size would have been pushing the limits of that particular, that 225 00:18:57,140 --> 00:19:03,080 particular size, but you can do an awful lot at one gig. In 226 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,100 fact, I've got three hour videos that were done on Zoom that 227 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:19,520 Don't come close. So yeah, it's often about five to 10 meg, per 228 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,970 minute of video, so you can get an awful lot of video in there 229 00:19:23,210 --> 00:19:34,160 and a gig remember, is 1000 meg. So kilobytes anyway, it's 230 00:19:34,190 --> 00:19:39,410 actually more than that. So anyway, um, YouTube, YouTube, 231 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:43,550 you've got, you can upload to YouTube, but again, you need to 232 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:50,330 go in and caption it. YouTube captioning is about as good as 233 00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:54,410 Screencast-o-Matic and about as good as Zoom's captioning, so 234 00:19:54,410 --> 00:20:00,800 you need to go in and edit it. You also there question as to 235 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,410 whether how much you retain the rights to those videos. 236 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:10,400 Technically you do and it's very simple to do that but it's, it's 237 00:20:10,670 --> 00:20:15,440 one of those things that I would be very careful of. Personally, 238 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,720 I have never really uploaded anything to YouTube. 3CMedia is 239 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,490 so simple to use that I just use that. 240 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,880 You can upload the video directly into your class. The 241 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,030 thing I don't like about that is that it takes up space and so 242 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:36,140 you're contacting me asking for more space, which is fine but 243 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:39,860 also next semester, when you copy your class, now you need 244 00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:41,690 the extra space, otherwise, you're going to miss those 245 00:20:41,690 --> 00:20:46,820 videos in the copy, versus if you use 3CMedia or YouTube, the 246 00:20:46,820 --> 00:20:50,420 link is all that you need and that stays the same between your 247 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:53,180 classes. So if you're going to use a video in two or more 248 00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:58,850 classes, it's better to upload the 3CMedia or YouTube than it 249 00:20:58,850 --> 00:21:01,790 is to store it in Canvas. If you're only going to use it in 250 00:21:01,790 --> 00:21:06,800 Canvas in the one class, then it's probably fine but you'll 251 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:11,600 feel free to contact me if you need more space. Somebody is 252 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,870 asking about QuickTime for editing, my understanding is 253 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:21,200 Apple has stopped using QuickTime. So that might go away 254 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,280 but there's, there are other apps that you can use for 255 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:32,090 editing and stuff like that, if you know them, G Suite, Google 256 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:38,600 Drive that I do that a lot for storing everything, documents, 257 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:41,930 videos, etc. and then I can simply take a link to that 258 00:21:41,930 --> 00:21:46,190 document and put it in Canvas, I can email it, whatever that is 259 00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:51,200 that is appropriate by sharing it. So G Suite is a great place 260 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,010 to do that it is a streaming server. So it's not going to 261 00:21:55,010 --> 00:22:00,290 require them to download all the time, but sometimes it will. So 262 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,130 that's, it's one thing to be aware of. We also have a package 263 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,260 that we got. Well, if you heard my presentation in January, I'm 264 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:17,360 announced their Playposit. So play posit has some storage 265 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:21,350 ability, but it's more about the streaming. So Playposit, allows 266 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:24,770 you to play a video, pause the video and ask a series of 267 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:29,270 questions and then you can keep on playing the video and it can 268 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:37,820 be done live, it could be done across a it can be done live, it 269 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:41,210 can also be done in your class, and allow the students to go 270 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:44,030 through the video over and over again. One place that I know 271 00:22:44,060 --> 00:22:49,850 several people have done is have used it is in an orientation 272 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,890 type situation, an orientation video. So you start the 273 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:57,590 orientation video, and then you stop and you ask them questions 274 00:22:57,590 --> 00:23:01,130 about what they just found out and then you keep doing that it 275 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:04,430 can be loaded into an assignment, or it can be loaded 276 00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:08,960 into or it can just be something for them to do over and over up 277 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,270 to over and over again, it's up to you how you want to do that. 278 00:23:19,340 --> 00:23:24,830 So ConferZoom, I talked about that quickly before it is Zoom 279 00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:29,540 Professional. If you are, if you do not have a Zoom account, 280 00:23:29,870 --> 00:23:34,400 please let me know rather than going to conferzoom.org. To 281 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,100 register because we are getting we've just within the last month 282 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,460 gotten a sub account. That's for us and so we'll be looking at 283 00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:46,490 moving people on to our sub account anyway. So you might as 284 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:49,610 well start at that position. If you've already had it, then 285 00:23:49,610 --> 00:23:54,500 don't worry about it. We'll be taking care of you shortly but 286 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,980 this is it's a really neat package. That is the 287 00:23:57,980 --> 00:24:01,820 professional level of zoom, paid for by I believe it's in 288 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:06,020 California Community Colleges Foundation, technically designed 289 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:11,000 for web conferences and web meetings and so that's really 290 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,360 what we're doing right now is we're doing this through Zoom 291 00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:18,590 and you can record like I just like I'm doing so that you get 292 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:22,310 lecture capture at the same time. So one question that often 293 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:25,550 comes up, do you need somebody else in a meeting in order to 294 00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:29,480 record or something like that? No. You can simply be in the 295 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,100 meeting by yourself, start a meeting and click on record and 296 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:38,360 whatever it is you're going to present. If you are using Zoom 297 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,920 in your classroom, that's really nice because you're good, you're 298 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680 used to it anyway and so you just keep on going and doing 299 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,510 what you're used to doing. It's free. There is an integration 300 00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:56,720 into Canvas can be used for online office hours recording. 301 00:24:56,990 --> 00:25:00,770 It does have the automatic transcription that again You 302 00:25:00,770 --> 00:25:06,890 need to edit to make it accurate but the disadvantage is teachers 303 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:10,730 have to set up every meeting, not necessarily individually but 304 00:25:10,970 --> 00:25:14,630 where I'm going with that is if using ConferZoom, your students 305 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:19,760 cannot have a meeting by themselves without you, okay. 306 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Now, there's ways around that. But you got to get really 307 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,020 creative because they don't have they can do it if they create 308 00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:34,250 their own free Zoom account, but they can't use your ConferZoom 309 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:37,070 account to do it. Virginia, you've got a question. 310 00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:42,920 Virginia Shank: I have a couple. One. I think if you set up the 311 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,800 meeting so that they can be there without the host, they can 312 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,830 meet without you. I'm not positive. If that's accurate. 313 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:50,840 Tim Van Norman: Yes, that can happen. 314 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:53,150 Virginia Shank: Yeah, because I've had students like in the 315 00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:55,760 classroom before I got their which is fine with me, because 316 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,590 they're just hanging out the same way they would appear 317 00:25:57,590 --> 00:26:02,060 physically there but my real question is about the privacy of 318 00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:07,070 Zoom or like, how is the ConferZoom different than 319 00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:11,480 standard Zoom in terms of like, what kind of data it might be 320 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,060 harvesting that kind of thing? Because I did have some students 321 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,540 last semester who didn't want to turn on video because they were 322 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:21,800 concerned about how their images could be used by Zoom. 323 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:27,560 Tim Van Norman: Yes, so, Zoom had to meet FERPA requirements 324 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:34,130 and stuff like that, in order to be acceptable for California 325 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:38,390 Community Colleges to purchase it. So I'm not--it is Zoom, 326 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:44,240 plain and simple. It is, ConferZoom is a special a 327 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,320 special version of Zoom, but it's really, it's our own little 328 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:57,860 world. Okay, but it is the full license version of Zoom. I've 329 00:26:57,860 --> 00:27:02,360 heard a lot of questions about Zoom, the privacy, all of that 330 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,930 stuff. I've got, if you've got questions, people who've got 331 00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:10,940 questions, I've got a couple of standard notes now that I can 332 00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:17,870 provide. It kind of depends on that person. If you're really 333 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:20,900 concerned about it, that's where some people are talking about 334 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:27,680 Cranium Cafe. Cranium Cafe is another option for that. I don't 335 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,640 like Cranium Cafe for just straight recording. Classroom is 336 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,730 one thing, but not. That's not what we're talking about today 337 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,300 that will come up in one of my later presentations is Cranium 338 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:45,560 Cafe but talking about just for recording, I'm, I have not had 339 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:55,760 issues where I felt it was that big of a deal. Now. I'm also I 340 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,520 call it the delusion of privacy is as hard as we tried to be 341 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:08,030 private, let's be realistic. In today's world there's, it's 342 00:28:08,030 --> 00:28:12,830 really hard to be truly private and not have anything available 343 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:18,710 on the internet. So as much as we might want to. So I hope that 344 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:24,050 at least partially answered your question. So, but I can get you 345 00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:27,770 more information, I've got more information in writing, which I 346 00:28:27,770 --> 00:28:30,530 know would be preferable, because then you can go back and 347 00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:38,630 review it. So and one option there as Diana put in is if you 348 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:42,920 want students to call you directly, you can do that as 349 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:50,150 well. PowerPoint I talked about so these I'm actually flipping 350 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:54,320 through because I already spent the time on each of these but 351 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,280 let's talk about considerations when you are doing a recording. 352 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,500 Number one, speak slowly. We all have many of us, okay. 353 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Especially me have a tendency to speak way too quickly. When I'm 354 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,910 recording because I know what it is and boom, boom, boom, boom, 355 00:29:10,910 --> 00:29:16,070 boom, I want to keep on going. Often Brent has to slow me down 356 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:20,270 when we're doing our podcasts and stuff. So it's just one of 357 00:29:20,270 --> 00:29:23,840 those things that happens. Keep each topic short three to five 358 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,150 minutes. If you can keep them short like that. Remember, you 359 00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:33,410 don't need to cover something twice because they if they want 360 00:29:33,410 --> 00:29:37,250 to see it again, they'll just rewind and watch it again. So if 361 00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:42,770 it's short, first of all, it's really easy. I pounded out in 362 00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:48,950 one weekend I pounded out almost 100 videos in a two day weekend, 363 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,330 because I kept them really short and they were all on Canvas. You 364 00:29:53,330 --> 00:29:59,120 guys will have access to them soon. I hope, so, yes, three at 365 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,970 three to five minutes. It's easy to pound out that many videos, 366 00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:07,280 add an hour, forget it. Plus, it's easier to watch them. If 367 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,080 they're really short. Watch the, that's the next point, watch 368 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,080 them, make sure that everything worked the way you expected. 369 00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:19,250 Remember, you can record a second time. Okay? I don't know 370 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,610 how many times I've watched a video and went, "Oh, I said 371 00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:25,730 that?" Well, if it's three to five minutes, it's really easy 372 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:30,410 to redo. If it's an hour long, oh, well, I move on, or I edit 373 00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:34,310 it. When you're recording, take your hand off the mouse, what 374 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:36,770 happens when somebody's got their mouse, and they're moving 375 00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:39,560 the mouse the whole time, and they're circling all of that, 376 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,710 okay, you're probably getting annoyed by me doing that on the 377 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:46,700 screen right now.If it's showing up, I assume it's showing up 378 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,790 because it does different things. So physically don't hold 379 00:30:49,790 --> 00:30:53,720 the mouse, just take your hand off the mouse and the same thing 380 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,820 goes, when you're doing a PowerPoint presentation in your 381 00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:59,660 classroom, take your hand off the mouse, I'm amazed at how 382 00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:02,930 many people think that if their hand is on the mouse, it's not 383 00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:07,670 moving but what happens instead is you get little tiny movements 384 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:12,050 and that, again, is just distracting and annoying and 385 00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:15,350 stuff like that, so physically take your hand off the mouse is 386 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:16,220 really nice thing to do. 387 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,290 If you are doing something, PowerPoint or Google Slides, and 388 00:31:21,290 --> 00:31:26,000 you're recording something like that, a little hint, pause at 389 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,770 the beginning and end of each slide and also don't use 390 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:36,020 transitions and the reason is because I found that I put my 391 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:41,540 wrong email address in a whole bunch of slides. Okay, had I 392 00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:45,140 done this? I could have chopped out that slide re recorded that 393 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:49,430 slide and popped it in not a big deal. Okay, but instead, I do 394 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:53,390 what most people did and I just keep on going and so now how do 395 00:31:53,390 --> 00:31:59,870 you edit that slide out. So it's really nice if you pause and 396 00:31:59,870 --> 00:32:02,780 especially if you're using PowerPoint, you really need to 397 00:32:02,780 --> 00:32:07,520 pause when you go to each slide and remember, of course that all 398 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:14,540 videos must be captioned. So some other things to pay 399 00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:19,040 attention to visibility and make sure all of your images include 400 00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:22,520 alt text, whenever you're doing any sort of a PowerPoint or 401 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,870 Google slide. Many people and I like this idea, they will have a 402 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:32,660 recording of their slide and then they will put the then they 403 00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:36,740 will put their slides up. Whether it's Google Slides, 404 00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:39,530 whether it's PowerPoint, they'll give those to the students as 405 00:32:39,530 --> 00:32:43,250 well, so that they can go back and review them later. This is a 406 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:46,730 great idea. I love that idea. Make sure it's got the alternate 407 00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:53,960 text, it allows for readers or anything else to be able to view 408 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,580 that and understand what the images are. If you take a look 409 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:02,030 at my presentations, all of my presentations that I do have a 410 00:33:02,030 --> 00:33:05,450 dark background. The reason for that is because it's a lot 411 00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:11,000 easier on the eyes, especially when it's projected. When it's 412 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:19,010 projected like that, I'm coming out the the light reflecting off 413 00:33:19,010 --> 00:33:22,310 of a whiteboard, if it happens to be against a whiteboard, or 414 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:26,210 the light reflecting off of a screen is harsher for the eyes 415 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,770 than if it's a dark background with light text. Plus, if you 416 00:33:30,770 --> 00:33:34,160 think about it, think of most of the images you use in your 417 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,410 class. Looking at just this screen that I'm looking at right 418 00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:44,600 now, about half of us have really light images. So if it 419 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,870 was a white background, the edges of those images would 420 00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:52,850 disappear because it's a dark background, all of the images 421 00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:58,550 come in crisp, even the darker images are crisper. So it really 422 00:33:58,550 --> 00:34:02,240 does make a difference to have a dark background. Keep the images 423 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,820 meaningful. For text less is more think of the person who was 424 00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:13,520 probably one of the greatest presenters of the last. Well, 425 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:19,520 long time, Steve Jobs. Some of his most memorable presentations 426 00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:23,450 and slides did not have one word on them. 427 00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:26,420 It was a picture. 428 00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:32,690 When he introduced the iPad or the iPhone I think it was it was 429 00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:38,210 that one picture and that's all he needed. Oh, we'll get into 430 00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:43,820 font size in a minute. The next part is be consistent background 431 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:48,410 color, text, color images, stuff like that. If you are 432 00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:51,290 consistent, it's called branding. It's an old marketing 433 00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:55,700 term that makes it so that things fit together and people 434 00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:58,910 see a consistency it automatically starts looking 435 00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:02,720 more professional If you have something that is constantly 436 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,710 changing, and every page on your slides is a different 437 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:09,500 background, and a different color and all of that stuff, 438 00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:13,610 it's creative. And if that's the way you're going to be 439 00:35:13,610 --> 00:35:16,760 consistent, that's great but that's really hard to stay 440 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,020 consistent. So figure out how you can have your personality 441 00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:25,940 put in there. Do I recommend all the slides look like mine and 442 00:35:25,940 --> 00:35:29,930 say, Irvine Valley College? Please no. Okay, you need your 443 00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:33,890 personality, I'm trying to do things a little differently and 444 00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:36,950 so this fits more my personality, but have your 445 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:42,590 personality show but don't make it change every single time, you 446 00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:46,220 have a different presentation, or worse, a lot of times in the 447 00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:50,570 presentation. So PowerPoint consideration, specifically, 448 00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:57,350 font size. So I love this particular one, take the oldest 449 00:35:57,350 --> 00:36:01,460 person in the room and divide by two. So if the oldest person in 450 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:04,430 the room including you, because you're theoretically in the room 451 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:13,280 is 25, then you're free to use a 12 point font. Okay, um, I think 452 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:18,530 these are 30-32 point font. So I didn't exactly do that either 453 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:22,100 because you, we could have somebody older than 60 in here 454 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,700 but, um, it's kind of a nice gauge. So having it so that 455 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,520 you've got like the oldest person in the room divided by 456 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,500 two. That means for me, 25 point font is the smallest I would 457 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:41,210 ever go. Alright, based on my own age and that just makes it a 458 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:48,770 nice general area and frankly, you've all seen we've all seen 459 00:36:48,830 --> 00:36:51,440 where somebody did a 10 point font, and then what do they 460 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,580 typically do, but too many words on and then they read it to you. 461 00:36:57,620 --> 00:37:02,240 All right. So why do they need a present? if all you're going to 462 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,090 do is read a PowerPoint, and you're not going to comment on 463 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:08,870 it, then I can do that on my own. I don't need to have you 464 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:15,140 tell me what you wrote. Okay. Light text on a dark background. 465 00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:18,980 If you're going to use a light background, definitely use dark 466 00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:24,080 text. Black, dark blue, really dark text, if you're going to 467 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,990 use a light background. minimize the number of fonts. Okay? Keep 468 00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:34,430 your fonts consistent throughout and it's going to be easier to read. 469 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:46,130 So yes, Keith, has pointed out that I use white on a dark blue 470 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:50,930 background, in this case or you could use dark on a light 471 00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:55,910 background. Minimize the number of fonts because as you work on 472 00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:59,450 that, and you have the different fonts in place, it becomes 473 00:37:59,450 --> 00:38:02,810 distracting. Now, if there's emphasis if you want to 474 00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:07,310 highlight something, go ahead, definitely do that but minimize 475 00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:16,280 the different fonts used and so this top 10 PowerPoint tips if 476 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,760 you've ever heard of a guy by the name of Guy Kawasaki, he 477 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,530 worked with Steve Jobs. As a he helped Steve Jobs with a number 478 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:31,820 of his presentations and stuff like that. So and he works with 479 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:38,720 a company that they they view 100 or 200 PowerPoints a year. 480 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,100 So with that many PowerPoints, he's got a top 10 that he likes 481 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:49,010 and I like he's an entertaining speaker anyway. So Guy Kawasaki, 482 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,690 Kawasaki, like the motorcycle. So number one, keep it simple. 483 00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:59,480 I'm not following necessarily all of these myself because I 484 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:05,660 needed more than that, but limit bullet points and text. Limit 485 00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:09,110 transitions, so notice none of mine have any transitions. They 486 00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:11,900 just immediately show up. If you're ever going to edit 487 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:15,380 transitions are kill you. Because how do you edit in a 488 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:20,450 transition, slide in that as a transition in it. Use high 489 00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:25,460 quality graphics, visual theme, but avoid the standard 490 00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:29,660 PowerPoint templates. You know allow let your personality show 491 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:35,960 through appropriate charts, we've all seen those charts that 492 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,760 you can't figure out what they mean. It's one thing to have 493 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,720 that and then then focus in on the different components. You 494 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,710 know that is an overview but if you're using a chart, make sure 495 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:54,770 it's appropriate and visual, and you're able to see it and use 496 00:39:54,770 --> 00:40:00,680 color well fonts well use video and or audio fields. Free to 497 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,760 include video in your PowerPoints and in your slides, 498 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:07,340 it does make it more interesting. You don't have to 499 00:40:07,340 --> 00:40:11,150 say everything, every word that comes out when you're using a 500 00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:16,280 PowerPoint and spend time in the slide sorter. If you've never 501 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,140 seen it, the slide sorter is one of the really, really nice way. 502 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,470 If you've got 10 slides or something like that, it'll show 503 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:28,730 you all the slides on the screen and then you can rearrange them 504 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:33,050 and then go back in and do them in order but it's all about the 505 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:37,220 ability to rearrange and you don't have to rearrange only 506 00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:40,190 with a six slides that you see on the left, if you're using 507 00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:46,070 PowerPoint, for instance. So let's talk a little bit about 508 00:40:46,070 --> 00:40:53,210 demonstration and while I do that, um, what questions do you 509 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:59,300 have? Are there any questions and feel free to unmute yourself? 510 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:05,300 Audience Member(s): I have a question. For the 3CMedia Solutions, 511 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:05,990 Tim Van Norman: yes. 512 00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:10,250 Audience Member(s): Is that is that something that students 513 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,260 would be able to access the videos there. 514 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,880 Tim Van Norman: So 3CMedia, all of the videos that are there. 515 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:26,960 They include a link and I'll show you that in just a moment 516 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:32,300 and those videos, you when you share that link with them, they 517 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:36,740 can then see the videos on their playlist that you can create as 518 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:43,160 well. That will do it but it will not. They do not have 519 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,480 access to all of your videos, unless you give them access to 520 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,650 the specific ones you want. 521 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,510 Audience Member(s): Okay, if I'm live streaming lectures, and I 522 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:58,310 want to, like record the lectures and upload them so that 523 00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:04,430 they can use them as review. Would 3CMedia Solutions be the 524 00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:07,220 way to do that? Or should I just embed them in Canvas, or should 525 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:09,020 I just post them to YouTube, like, 526 00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:12,320 Tim Van Norman: So I would upload them to 3CMedia and then 527 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,060 just put that link into Canvas. 528 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000 Audience Member(s): Okay, and that should be able to, it'll 529 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,810 link to all the videos that I upload, or do I need a separate link for every video 530 00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:25,640 Tim Van Norman: Whichever one you want to do. So let me show you. 531 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,540 So when you when you go into 3CMedia, under media, you have 532 00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:51,440 all of the videos that you've uploaded. Now my suggestion is 533 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,000 that you don't make the mistake I did you create folders and put 534 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,170 everything in folders. When I originally did this, I had about 535 00:43:00,170 --> 00:43:03,320 100 videos in before I realized that I had completely made a 536 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,920 mess, and so created the folders to put everything in. Alright, 537 00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:14,990 so in here, I've got for instance 3CMedia and this is all 538 00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:18,440 the videos that I have put in an uploaded having to do with 539 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:28,370 3CMedia. So I can go into each one individually and I can grab 540 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:36,710 the share link, and then I can post that. Okay, or I can go in 541 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:41,570 at the bottom and grab this share link down here and that 542 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:47,420 share link will give you a link to all of these videos and this 543 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:50,600 isn't a playlist This is just this list that's in this folder. 544 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,710 So every video I add will automatically be added to that length. 545 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:56,540 Audience Member(s): That's a link more to the folder rather 546 00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:58,730 than the individual videos. 547 00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:59,390 Tim Van Norman: Correct. 548 00:43:59,990 --> 00:44:04,370 Audience Member(s): Okay. On the Screencast-o-Matic if I have 549 00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:07,880 Saddleback email address, will it work? With IVC? 550 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,590 Tim Van Norman: That should work. 551 00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:10,340 Audience Member(s): Thank you, 552 00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:11,990 Tim Van Norman: Diana. 553 00:44:15,290 --> 00:44:19,760 Diana Hurlbut: So I haven't used 3CMedia yet. So where is it in 554 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:28,580 3CMedia that you can upload your PowerPoint or your ConferZoom to have them transcribe 555 00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:33,380 Tim Van Norman: Okay, so when you when you do the upload and 556 00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:35,780 you simply click on Add Upload Media. 557 00:44:36,770 --> 00:44:41,540 Tim Van Norman: Okay, and upload a video. Give it a title and hit 558 00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:49,700 next and find the file and upload. Okay. Then when you when 559 00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,190 you've done that, you got to wait a couple minutes for it to process. 560 00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:59,300 Diana Hurlbut: Oh, I see submit this media for captioning. There we go. 561 00:44:59,540 --> 00:45:02,720 Tim Van Norman: So Here, it's paid for by the DECT Grant. So I 562 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,800 cannot use a, I cannot take advantage of this, you guys can 563 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,430 because all of your stuff is for a classroom. So you give 564 00:45:10,460 --> 00:45:16,130 approximate length of the video and then what section it's in 565 00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:21,350 what term and then my suggestion is transcriber notes, especially 566 00:45:21,410 --> 00:45:26,570 in science, in accounting, someplace where you got terms 567 00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:30,980 that I wouldn't know how to spell, which would be almost any 568 00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:36,980 topic, okay but put those terms in there so that they have a 569 00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:41,810 clue what it is that they're going to be transcribing and a 570 00:45:41,810 --> 00:45:45,530 two minute video is pretty easy and a half an hour long video, 571 00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:49,670 they want to know that it's going to be half an hour. Plus, 572 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,000 if you tell them what it is, maybe they're going to be able 573 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,060 to be much more accurate because that's one of the things that 574 00:45:56,060 --> 00:46:01,460 I've heard is people who don't put transcriber notes in tend to 575 00:46:01,490 --> 00:46:06,020 not necessarily have Proctorio, for instance, go through, right. 576 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,520 Well, that makes sense because proctorio isn't really a word. 577 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,630 Diana Hurlbut: I'm assuming though, my lectures I mean, 578 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:16,220 that's an hour and a half long. 579 00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:22,640 Tim Van Norman: They, they can be captioned through this? Yes. 580 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,090 Diana Hurlbut: All right. 581 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:26,210 Tim Van Norman: And this is human captioning. So what they 582 00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:30,470 do, I believe, is they have it run through one of those auto 583 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:32,750 captioning systems, and then they go back through and edit 584 00:46:32,750 --> 00:46:35,240 it, rather than them actually sit there and type your whole 585 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:42,200 presentation but they come back in three to five business days. They're really good. 586 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:44,510 Audience Member(s): I 587 00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:48,620 noticed, sorry to chime in, but I put something up the other day 588 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,000 and they had a statement up there, you can see it in red on 589 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,670 your screen right there. They had a 14 day wait period because 590 00:46:58,670 --> 00:47:01,940 of delays lately, and this is the most recent message, they 591 00:47:01,940 --> 00:47:05,990 don't even have the 14 day posted up there and I guess it's potentially longer. 592 00:47:06,350 --> 00:47:09,920 Tim Van Norman: Okay. So one of the nice things about 3CMedia 593 00:47:09,950 --> 00:47:18,530 is, once you have put it once you have uploaded the video, and 594 00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:22,910 then you put the caption, you submit for captioning, that link 595 00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:28,340 stays the same, even after they've captioned it. So you can 596 00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:33,620 you can use that link right away. I prefer that you recorded 597 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,070 early enough and uploaded early enough so that it's captioned 598 00:47:37,070 --> 00:47:43,550 before you're going to use it in your class but so, recording it 599 00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:47,240 now really does help. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, 600 00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:51,440 they only caption in English. At the moment. I've heard that 601 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,820 there was some possibility for other languages, but I've not 602 00:47:55,820 --> 00:47:58,490 heard any success with other languages. 603 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,820 Diana Hurlbut: So Tim, I have one more question and I'm doing 604 00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:06,290 a face to face class. I'm not. I mean, I would get it if it was 605 00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:09,110 an online and I was pre recording my lectures, but this 606 00:48:09,110 --> 00:48:12,290 is just recording what I said that day. 607 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,490 Tim Van Norman: So while you are recording, like we're doing 608 00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:19,670 right now, you're not required to have captions or anything 609 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:28,280 like that. Okay. It's if you do pre recorded, and in fact, like 610 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,660 is happening right now, we've got somebody interpreting for 611 00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:40,700 somebody who's, who is deaf. So that will happen in your class, 612 00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:45,410 if you have somebody who has asked for that accommodation. I 613 00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:52,760 personally prefer when possible to have the captioning show up 614 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,980 anyway. Okay, so a lot of times, I'll do like, I just did make my 615 00:48:57,980 --> 00:49:00,830 screen a little smaller so that it will still come up at the 616 00:49:00,830 --> 00:49:06,020 top, or something like that. I like to try. I hope it's 617 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:14,240 beneficial but it's kind of best I can do type of situation. So yes. 618 00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:18,410 Roopa Mathur: Tim, when you're having that captioning in the 619 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,930 Google Slides, can you still submit it to 3CMedia for captioning? 620 00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:28,130 Tim Van Norman: Yes, but that's also why I put the captioning at 621 00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:32,300 the top because cat true captioning is going to go at the 622 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,600 bottom, and I really don't want captions over captions. 623 00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:41,900 I've seen what that has done and it looks horrible and frankly, 624 00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:44,750 it makes something that's supposed to be about being able 625 00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:50,090 to read better, worse. So I that's why one of the one of the 626 00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:53,120 things I've done is put my captions at the top, so it won't. 627 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,130 Roopa Mathur: So if you get this video caption, the DECT Grant 628 00:49:58,130 --> 00:50:00,230 will put captioning at the bottom. So it we'll see 629 00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:03,530 captioning at the top that's live and captioning at the 630 00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:06,110 bottom that they did afterwards, correct? 631 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,500 Tim Van Norman: So the DECT Grant actually does captioning 632 00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:14,540 correctly. And why the reason I say that is because if it's 633 00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:18,890 captioned, there's actually a spot at the bottom that comes up 634 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,570 and is like a gray gray interface, and then white text 635 00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:29,900 on top of that, only when you turn it on. Okay, so it won't 636 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:33,650 actually come up at the bottom. It's that that's what, that's 637 00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:38,930 what correct captioning is and I believe in some cases, you do 638 00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:42,140 have the ability to move that, depending on your software that 639 00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:46,580 you're using. But does that make sense? Does that answer what 640 00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:47,360 you're asking Roopa? 641 00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:51,590 Roopa Mathur: It does but if somebody turned on the closed 642 00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:55,400 captioning, they would still see two captions the last topic. 643 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:56,600 Okay, got it. Thank you, 644 00:50:57,650 --> 00:50:59,810 Tim Van Norman: And hopefully the one at the bottom is more accurate. 645 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,270 Audience Member(s): So I think somebody may have just answered 646 00:51:02,270 --> 00:51:06,740 this, but because I was asking this G Suite captioning is is 647 00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:11,480 that only works with, like PowerPoint presentations. Google 648 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,940 Slides, or Google Slides. Okay, because I'm, I use PDF handouts 649 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:19,730 and I'm just planning on live streaming, what I'm writing down 650 00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:23,660 when I use OneNote. So it doesn't seem like G Suite would 651 00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:26,330 work like that but apparently, somebody said that it because 652 00:51:26,330 --> 00:51:31,550 I'm planning on also using Zoom, but Zoom why? Does Zoom does auto captioning? 653 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,820 Tim Van Norman: It does do auto captioning. Yes. 654 00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:50,930 So if I go in here, and I look at my recordings, any of these 655 00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:52,430 recordings that have 656 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:05,450 like this one, I can actually download the audio transcript or 657 00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:08,240 I can go ahead and play this recording, 658 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:17,930 and you see on the right, it has captioning that has shown up 659 00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:25,700 before that. This does allow me to go in and edit it. So I can 660 00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:31,220 click on this and I can fix it but this also, at that 27 661 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:38,690 seconds. It's not going to be that's an awful lot for a true 662 00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:46,640 caption. Okay, so this isn't the correct captioning. Legal 663 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,220 captioning. It's better than nothing but does that make sense? 664 00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:55,070 Audience Member(s): How would we know what the legal requirement for captioning is? 665 00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:58,310 Tim Van Norman: that's part of why I like the other and if you 666 00:52:58,310 --> 00:53:02,390 make this accurate, that's my understanding. We we fit but 667 00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:08,480 Keith might have a better, better answer to that but 668 00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:13,010 there's a whole list of legal requirements that if you want to 669 00:53:13,010 --> 00:53:17,300 know you can talk to DSPs and they can get that information. 670 00:53:18,410 --> 00:53:20,450 Dr. Bob: Tim, that that capturing though, is not real 671 00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:26,510 time and under ConferZoom. You got to it takes a while to get that back. 672 00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:30,560 Tim Van Norman: So you're right, it does. Actually it takes a 673 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,460 while it takes up approximately as long as it took you to 674 00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:41,270 record. It's not actually that long but it is not live, you're 675 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:49,220 absolutely correct. It will come up but usually I find like when 676 00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:54,920 I'm done with this presentation. Within an hour, I'll have an 677 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,370 email saying here's your caption. Here's the transcript 678 00:53:58,370 --> 00:54:07,880 file because this will be about an hour long presentation. So if 679 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,280 you're doing this Zoom class, how do you get the correct 680 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:19,070 captioning, you either edit it yourself or you or you upload it 681 00:54:19,070 --> 00:54:24,170 to 3CMedia. One of the nice things is so here if I go back 682 00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:30,440 to my recording, I can download the auto audio transcript and I 683 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,450 can take also download the video file itself and then when I 684 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:41,810 upload it to 3CMedia, I can edit the media and I can put that 685 00:54:41,810 --> 00:54:49,880 caption file in here. So you can actually put if you correct it 686 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,830 in Zoom, you can upload it it is the file that it's the SRT file. 687 00:54:55,910 --> 00:55:01,970 I believe that it downloads that you need for captioning. So you 688 00:55:01,970 --> 00:55:06,140 can correct it in Zoom and then upload it into here, which is a 689 00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:09,230 really nice thing to do. It saves three hours. If it's a 690 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:12,470 three hour class, it can save three hours of captioning time 691 00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:21,800 of somebody having to pay for that. Any other questions on 692 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,630 this that this is what I was hoping for, for the 693 00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:27,260 demonstration as to demonstrate what you guys have questions on. 694 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,660 So Fatima asked, If you record with Zoom, Adobe, 695 00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:43,280 Screencast-o-Matic, whatever, you want to do it and upload, 696 00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:47,300 can you upload it to 3CMedia for captioning? That's exactly what 697 00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:52,250 it's for. Yes. Okay, 698 00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:54,880 Dr. Bob: I believe, I believe Screencast-o-Matic also does its 699 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,990 own capturing too, right? 700 00:55:56,740 --> 00:56:01,480 Tim Van Norman: It does but again, it's an auto caption. So you need to edit it. 701 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,590 Dr. Bob: Sure. 702 00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:08,840 Tim Van Norman: So some additional, helpful tools for 703 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,040 you. All right, we can get to more questions in a minute but I 704 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,880 want to, I want to mention a couple things. So I mentioned 705 00:56:16,910 --> 00:56:21,410 Playposit, I mentioned Screencast-o-Matic and there's 706 00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:25,400 another tool, DesignPLUS that you'll be hearing much more 707 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,420 about, it's how you can improve the look of your Canvas Shell 708 00:56:30,860 --> 00:56:35,480 and it is wonderful. Once you get into it and play with it a 709 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,470 little bit, it lets you organize your Canvas Shell, I just did 710 00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:45,110 one with close to 100 modules in it and I dare you to find the 711 00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:49,280 module because there is no link to modules you will not see, as 712 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,780 a student, you will not see the modules however it's built in so 713 00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:56,840 that it all everything fits together. It did a really nice 714 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,000 job of it and it actually looks far more amazing than I would 715 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,500 do. Okay, I'm just not creative that way. Other helpful 716 00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:11,840 resources, we've got our training at training.ivc.edu 717 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:19,730 website, tech.ivc.edu website, TheHigherEdTechPodcast.com that 718 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:25,340 that's kind of my plug for podcasts that Brent and I put 719 00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:32,840 together every two weeks, first in third Thursday of each month 720 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:40,370 and then you can get a hold of me as well. So for anybody who 721 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:44,420 is who needs to take off, go ahead. Otherwise, I'll be around 722 00:57:44,420 --> 00:57:48,350 for a little while but let me know what questions you have and 723 00:57:48,350 --> 00:57:53,240 I wanted to at least let you guys know about some resources 724 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,320 and things that we've got that are here already. There's some 725 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,600 more stuff hopefully coming very soon, but we're all getting there. So 726 00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:03,380 Donna King: Hey, Tim, 727 00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:06,740 Tim can you hear me. So can you hear me? Okay? 728 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:07,340 Tim Van Norman: Yes. 729 00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:11,240 Donna King: Okay. So just to piggyback on Diana's common 730 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,730 question about recording, if we're teaching 731 00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:15,590 synchronous--synchronously. 732 00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:21,800 We don't really have to record that. Do we, if we're teaching, 733 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,760 you know, and in real time, we're not, you know, recording 734 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,980 something we're not obligated? 735 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:33,660 Tim Van Norman: You're not obligated to record it, no. I 736 00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:39,330 like the idea of recording it but especially, in fact, by the 737 00:58:39,330 --> 00:58:45,780 way, that was a huge twist for me because I, I came into a 738 00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:48,540 presentation before the presentation, I said, Okay, I 739 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:52,110 have to present on why we should do lecture capture, and I don't 740 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,900 understand why. Um, and I had a student say, I, that was a grad 741 00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,670 student and she said, I use lecture capture, because I can 742 00:59:03,150 --> 00:59:06,780 go back to, I can go through my notes, and I can compare it to 743 00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,930 what the teacher actually said and I can go back through and 744 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:13,710 understand better, and I can do that multiple times. If I have a 745 00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:16,470 question on something, I can go back to what the teacher 746 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:19,680 actually said and from that perspective, I really like it. 747 00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:23,850 Once she said that it kind of clicked for me, but it literally 748 00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:27,330 took somebody telling me flat out because I was sitting there 749 00:59:27,330 --> 00:59:31,080 going, I wouldn't want to do this, yet turns out I do it all 750 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:36,450 the time. So does that answer along the lines that basically 751 00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:41,490 no, you don't have to? Okay. Diana, you had asked about 752 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,190 actually Roopa asked about DesignPLUS, there's a bunch of 753 00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,520 people who are going to ask about DesignPLUS, I am putting 754 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:53,130 together some videos to go over it. If you need a shell to play 755 00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:56,670 with, go ahead a sandbox shell let me know and I'll give you 756 00:59:56,670 --> 01:00:00,420 one most people have found 757 01:00:00,450 --> 01:00:01,830 Dr. Bob: [inaudible] a letter of recommendation. 758 01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:07,110 Tim Van Norman: I didn't catch that. Most people have found 759 01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:12,090 that, once you get into it a little bit, it goes pretty well 760 01:00:13,350 --> 01:00:17,610 but I do have, there's some tricks and stuff like that to 761 01:00:17,610 --> 01:00:22,140 get in and to understand it a little better. So, but please 762 01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:27,090 shoot me an email on it, I will apologize. I have only 127 763 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:32,070 unread emails at the moment and for me, um, I tried to keep my 764 01:00:32,070 --> 01:00:37,980 total inbox at less than 50 and I have 300 in it right now. So 765 01:00:38,130 --> 01:00:41,460 give me a little bit to get through it too but so don't 766 01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:44,490 expect me to have anything done. everything done by tomorrow 767 01:00:44,490 --> 01:00:48,120 morning, for instance. So just just saying. 768 01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:50,340 Audience Member(s): And I have a quick question for you on 769 01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:53,340 DesignPLUS, are any of your sessions this week going to be 770 01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:56,880 focused on more information regarding that? 771 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,980 Tim Van Norman: Unfortunately, I was asked. I was given my topics 772 01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:06,840 before we got DesignPLUS. So Otherwise, they would have been, 773 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,490 but no, I don't have that in any of my sessions. Specifically. 774 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:19,890 That said, we'll see if I can put something together quickly. 775 01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:22,200 To get that in place. 776 01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:24,690 Audience Member(s): Now, some of some of the sessions I noticed 777 01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:28,380 you said are just like, aare there any, like drop in office 778 01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:31,140 hours that you're holding to help people with the with their 779 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:34,260 Canvas Core Shells? Or is that something you're still doing this? 780 01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:38,970 Tim Van Norman: Yes, tomorrow, I'm looking at my schedule off 781 01:01:38,970 --> 01:01:46,590 to the side here. Tomorrow, I believe at two. Thursday at four 782 01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:54,840 and Friday. I don't remember I don't know if it's at nine or at 10. 783 01:02:01,710 --> 01:02:02,610 Audience Member(s): And so we just go to 784 01:02:02,610 --> 01:02:03,330 Tim Van Norman: at 10, 785 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:09,450 Friday at 10 and there's in the flex week schedule, there's links to those. 786 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,850 Audience Member(s): So we just go to that gym session, and we 787 01:02:11,850 --> 01:02:15,420 pose your question, and then you'll help us out how it works. 788 01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:18,330 Tim Van Norman: We're gonna learn how that works. 789 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,850 Because usually, usually I'm sitting in a classroom. 790 01:02:22,770 --> 01:02:24,690 Audience Member(s): I know a little bit about like, certain 791 01:02:24,690 --> 01:02:28,080 design things. So I probably need to share my screen with you 792 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,540 or something so that you helped me figure it out. So I'm just 793 01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:32,790 trying to figure out the best way if there's any time this 794 01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:36,150 week, because I would like to use this design class and 795 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,680 Tim Van Norman: Yeah, I I'm expecting that at least one of [inaudible] 796 01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:46,260 those is going to get into that. Okay and then Cheryl Bailey, 797 01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:51,360 ho is also who is OETF o-chair, and has done a lot 798 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,170 ith DesignPLUS as well. She's oing to be in there too. So. 799 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,180 Audience Member(s): Perfect. Yeah, it shouldn't. I mean, just 800 01:02:58,180 --> 01:03:01,510 a few things. But I think some guidance. No, thank you. 801 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,970 Tim Van Norman: It's a great package. Yeah. Can 802 01:03:04,540 --> 01:03:10,090 Diana Hurlbut: I have a question on Playposit? So I use in the 803 01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:16,240 class, I use the iClicker. In my Zoom meetings, and I get them to 804 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,620 answer questions right then and there and as part of like me 805 01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:22,870 doing attendance, but also seeing if they understand the 806 01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:28,150 concept would Playposit, allow me to give them a score for 807 01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:33,190 their answers. Does it? Take attend-like, does it record their answers? 808 01:03:33,610 --> 01:03:36,550 Tim Van Norman: So you have options with Playposit, one of 809 01:03:36,550 --> 01:03:40,240 them is you can do it as an external tool for a foreign 810 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,550 assignment and then 811 01:03:42,550 --> 01:03:44,050 Diana Hurlbut: No no no I want to ask questions-- 812 01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:45,880 No, I want to ask questions in the lecture. 813 01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:50,470 Tim Van Norman: Oh, live, live questions. It would be more 814 01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:53,080 difficult only because you'd have to have prepared that ahead 815 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,410 of time. You'd have to have prepared what questions you're 816 01:03:56,410 --> 01:04:00,190 going to ask ahead of time, rather than iClicker will do 817 01:04:00,190 --> 01:04:01,990 much better for what you're looking for Diana. 818 01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:03,100 Diana Hurlbut: Okay. Thank you. 819 01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:07,800 Tim Van Norman: Sure. All right. Any other questions? 820 01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:10,210 Summer Serpas: I have a question, Tim. This is Summer 821 01:04:10,210 --> 01:04:13,900 Serpas. I sent you one of those hundreds of emails. But 822 01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:15,160 I figured I'd ask here 823 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,420 in case anyone else is having the same issue. So I'm trying to 824 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,830 record videos to show students things like how to access their 825 01:04:23,830 --> 01:04:27,460 Google Course Kit Assignments and things like that but the 826 01:04:27,460 --> 01:04:31,210 problem is when I go to do it in my canvas, and I logged in to my 827 01:04:31,210 --> 01:04:34,630 Google, it shows me as an instructor, and I cannot show 828 01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:38,920 them actually what it looks like as a student and so I'm having 829 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,760 trouble because I've been out of a classroom for a little bit. 830 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,370 I'm new to Canvas, so I don't actually even know what it looks 831 01:04:45,370 --> 01:04:48,190 like as a student. So I don't know how to tell them what to do 832 01:04:48,190 --> 01:04:53,020 and so I'm wondering if there's a way I can get in to it with an 833 01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:57,130 actual student view and Jeff Johnson said perhaps you could 834 01:04:57,130 --> 01:05:02,170 make a like a Shell Student account for me or something. 835 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,050 Tim Van Norman: So yes, that's exactly what I was going to 836 01:05:05,050 --> 01:05:10,000 suggest what I can do, um, for anybody who would like to have a 837 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,410 true student view of your class, shoot me an email, you need to 838 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:18,670 have give me a personal email address that you do check, as 839 01:05:18,670 --> 01:05:25,240 well as a, what class or classes you want loaded into and what I 840 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,400 do is I create a special student account, and it will say your 841 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,550 name dash student, okay, so the students would know that it's 842 01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:37,150 you that's doing it, it's creates a special student 843 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:40,900 account, and then you have access to everything 100%, like 844 01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:45,520 a student does. So you would see, you would be using your G 845 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,640 Suite, your IVC G Suite. So it'll create a separate folder 846 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,000 in G Suite for it but everything, everything about 847 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,610 what you do is going to be exactly like a student does. So 848 01:05:54,850 --> 01:05:59,110 if you're using publisher content, a lot of times you can 849 01:05:59,110 --> 01:06:02,320 contact the publisher, and they will give you an access code. So 850 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,340 you can actually go in and be a student in your class and see 851 01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:09,880 that those are some of the things that you cannot do from the student view. 852 01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:12,370 So that would be the best way to do it 853 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,030 Summer Serpas: Do I log into Canvas, like my regular login, 854 01:06:16,030 --> 01:06:19,660 but then when I log into the G Suite part, I use the shell 855 01:06:19,660 --> 01:06:21,520 student that you're going to create or no? 856 01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:24,640 Tim Van Norman: It would be the opposite. So you would log into 857 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:30,100 Canvas as you as a teacher, and to do your normal stuff but then 858 01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:34,150 you would log out and login as you as the student with your 859 01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:35,380 personal email address. 860 01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:41,260 Summer Serpas: So I'm going to get a whole new IVC login to log into Canvas, 861 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,260 Tim Van Norman: You would get a whole new login to Canvas, but 862 01:06:44,260 --> 01:06:46,090 you would be using your personal email address, 863 01:06:46,690 --> 01:06:47,200 Summer Serpas: Okay. 864 01:06:48,190 --> 01:06:50,770 Tim Van Norman: It will not have anything to do with IVC. It does 865 01:06:50,770 --> 01:06:54,850 not go through any IVC systems or anything like that, which is 866 01:06:54,850 --> 01:07:00,430 why you won't be using your IVC or you will use your teacher IVC 867 01:07:00,820 --> 01:07:05,830 G Suite account, not a special G Suite account for you. So it 868 01:07:05,830 --> 01:07:09,340 does get a little complicated but I can go over that with you 869 01:07:09,340 --> 01:07:13,840 too but that's the easiest way is shoot me an email. Plus I, 870 01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:16,930 part of why I keep asking people to shoot me an email. One is 871 01:07:16,930 --> 01:07:20,020 because if I'm doing a presentation, I don't get 872 01:07:20,410 --> 01:07:25,180 voicemail. I don't answer the phone when I'm presenting or or 873 01:07:25,180 --> 01:07:28,090 on the phone or whatever but the other is because especially with 874 01:07:28,090 --> 01:07:33,580 something like this, I need it documented because if ever 875 01:07:33,580 --> 01:07:37,090 somebody said, "hey, how come summers in this class as a 876 01:07:37,090 --> 01:07:41,500 student?" Well, she requested it and now both of us are 877 01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:46,750 protected. Yeah. This has gone up the chain to make sure that 878 01:07:46,750 --> 01:07:50,290 I'm doing it right, okay, this isn't just me to me deciding 879 01:07:50,290 --> 01:07:53,230 something this is, you know, I've asked 880 01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:55,480 Summer Serpas: Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. 881 01:07:55,690 --> 01:07:59,620 Tim Van Norman: Sure, Diana? Oh, yeah. Diana, 882 01:07:59,980 --> 01:08:02,980 Diana Hurlbut: Tim, did you make this power? Did you make this in 883 01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:06,550 PowerPoint and then transfer it over to G Suite or did you 884 01:08:06,550 --> 01:08:08,410 create this in G Suite? 885 01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:13,210 Tim Van Norman: The original was the original original original 886 01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:15,430 slide that I did was in PowerPoint 887 01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:22,510 and in G Suite, you've got the ability to just convert. Okay, I 888 01:08:22,510 --> 01:08:30,370 saved it in G Suite. And then let me find here. 889 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:41,680 When I go into drive, I'll actually have to look for a PowerPoint. 890 01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:43,060 Diana Hurlbut: That's okay. Yeah. 891 01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:46,630 Tim Van Norman: But basically, oh, here, here's a PowerPoint, 892 01:08:46,900 --> 01:08:53,890 the President's opening session and what you could do, it 893 01:08:54,340 --> 01:09:02,710 probably won't work very well but what you can do is maybe 894 01:09:02,710 --> 01:09:05,230 because this is really long, but there's an ability to just 895 01:09:05,230 --> 01:09:10,870 transfer it and convert it to a slide but this one, this one is 896 01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:15,070 a huge file. Okay. It's got an embedded video in it. So, 897 01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:16,810 Diana Hurlbut: yeah, it was nice. It was very nice this 898 01:09:16,810 --> 01:09:18,100 morning. Yeah. 899 01:09:20,230 --> 01:09:24,160 Tim Van Norman: Good. I'm glad to hear that. When you do 900 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,440 something like that, for the first time, you're always over 901 01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:28,900 concerned and over critical. So 902 01:09:31,930 --> 01:09:36,310 Dr. Bob: Are you going to send the second link for the video on 903 01:09:36,310 --> 01:09:38,380 this and the PowerPoint presentation? 904 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,600 Tim Van Norman: I don't know exactly how they're handling 905 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,040 that. If it's going out to everybody, or if it's going to 906 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:51,260 be posted on the flex week schedule. If you would, like 907 01:09:51,860 --> 01:09:55,610 shoot me an email and I can definitely reply with the with the link. 908 01:09:57,620 --> 01:09:59,990 Dr. Bob: Was this a iClicker you folks were talking about? 909 01:10:00,890 --> 01:10:04,370 Tim Van Norman: I clicker is a tool--which which company is 910 01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:08,840 that with McGraw Hill? Macmillan. It's from Macmillan 911 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,460 that allows you to it can be done on cell phones even but 912 01:10:13,490 --> 01:10:16,580 they basically everybody logs into the same account and then 913 01:10:16,580 --> 01:10:19,850 when you ask a question, they've got yes or no on their screen or 914 01:10:19,850 --> 01:10:22,040 something like that, and they just click the appropriate response. 915 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,290 Dr. Bob: It's like Poll Everywhere. 916 01:10:26,150 --> 01:10:27,710 Tim Van Norman: You could do something like that with Poll 917 01:10:27,710 --> 01:10:34,130 Everywhere, yes, but Macmillan has more features and stuff. 918 01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:38,930 Diana Hurlbut: However, let me, so you just have them sign up 919 01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:43,520 with their cell phone and they need an email address and, and 920 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,770 here's my evil, get around paying for it, is they get it 921 01:10:48,770 --> 01:10:54,380 for free for two weeks and then it's going to ask them for $16. 922 01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:57,650 Well just sign up again, with a different email. Now you get 923 01:10:57,650 --> 01:11:02,120 another two weeks for free and so that's how I, that's I cheat 924 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,930 that way because, like, we have to watch, you know, nickel and 925 01:11:05,930 --> 01:11:10,070 dime for these students and but yeah, that's and so then I asked 926 01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:12,980 a question they have to answer. It's great. I instantly see the 927 01:11:12,980 --> 01:11:16,070 poll, I can see if they're getting the concept or not and 928 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:17,810 I'm secretly taking attendance. 929 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,560 Tim Van Norman: Nice and by the way, remember that you actually, 930 01:11:24,620 --> 01:11:28,910 your email address. You got three different emails for your 931 01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:32,660 email address. So I'm tvannorman@ivc.edu. I'm 932 01:11:32,660 --> 01:11:39,470 tvannorman@saddleback.edu and I'm tvannorman@socccd.edu so 933 01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:42,460 there's three right there. 934 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,590 Dr. Bob: Nice presentation. Thanks. 935 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:47,900 Tim Van Norman: You're welcome. Anything else? Any other 936 01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:48,860 questions? 937 01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:54,930 Dr. Bob: The visitor back there is the visitor, the person 938 01:11:54,990 --> 01:11:57,390 typing the transcript or something like that. 939 01:11:58,800 --> 01:11:59,580 Tim Van Norman: Visitor? 940 01:12:01,530 --> 01:12:03,420 Dr. Bob: She's got that little background, the virtual 941 01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:05,820 background with the rainbow and that? 942 01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:06,810 Tim Van Norman: Oh, no, 943 01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:08,010 Dr. Bob: She's a transcriber? 944 01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,210 Tim Van Norman: You know, that's [inaudible] I know her. I've 945 01:12:11,210 --> 01:12:12,380 worked with her several times. 946 01:12:13,710 --> 01:12:16,620 Dr. Bob: So do you have a transcriber on this one right now or not? 947 01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:22,020 Tim Van Norman: No. No, we have an interpreter. I believe Roy is interpreting. 948 01:12:23,190 --> 01:12:26,760 Dr. Bob: Okay but not not normally, if you had somebody, 949 01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:30,540 that would be something you would go through the CCConfer 950 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:35,010 right, to ask for a person to actually transcribe in real time? 951 01:12:35,370 --> 01:12:37,350 Tim Van Norman: Oh, no. If you're going to be doing that 952 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:44,880 for your classroom, you would speak with our DSPs. Office and, 953 01:12:45,660 --> 01:12:50,940 and there, they've got the ability to do that. That is not 954 01:12:50,940 --> 01:12:55,230 part of what ConferZoom does right now. They've been working 955 01:12:55,230 --> 01:12:59,880 on some stuff with that, but not right. Not at the moment, to my knowledge. 956 01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:01,680 Dr. Bob: Because I always thought that was something if 957 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,560 you wanted again, then you had to give him a few days notice 958 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,400 and I thought they actually put a real transcriber during the session. 959 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,430 Tim Van Norman: And that is the case, but I would talk to our 960 01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,610 DSPs office, and they can get you the specifics on that. So 961 01:13:14,610 --> 01:13:17,940 one of the questions, one of the questions in the chat is how do 962 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:31,170 we get access to 3CMedia? www.3CMediasolutions.org and I 963 01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:35,940 just put that in the chat. That is the website to go to. That's 964 01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:40,110 the website I went to and you can you see that as this first 965 01:13:40,110 --> 01:13:46,680 part up here. Okay. Any other questions I can answer? 966 01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:58,620 Roopa Mathur: And, Tim, can you repeat when you have online 967 01:13:58,620 --> 01:14:00,900 office hours available for this week? 968 01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:02,190 Tim Van Norman: When I do? 969 01:14:02,450 --> 01:14:04,370 Roopa Mathur: Yeah, I think you said something about you're 970 01:14:04,370 --> 01:14:06,530 going to be in some Zoom meetings and- 971 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,650 Tim Van Norman: We've got scheduled office hours, I 972 01:14:09,650 --> 01:14:19,160 believe it is at two o'clock Tuesday. Four o'clock Thursday, 973 01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:34,730 and we just verify came up behind and, 10 o'clock on Friday. 974 01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:38,450 Roopa Mathur: And they're listed in the Professional Development 975 01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:43,880 Schedule. Yes. Okay, got it. So those Online Tools and Pedagogy 976 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,590 office hours are that's what they are. 977 01:14:45,620 --> 01:14:46,490 Tim Van Norman: That's what those are. 978 01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:47,330 Roopa Mathur: Thank you. 979 01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:52,190 Tim Van Norman: And that will be both Cheryl Bailey and myself 980 01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:56,300 and I don't know if other people will be attending as well to help. 981 01:14:57,770 --> 01:14:58,730 Roopa Mathur: So thank you. 982 01:14:59,750 --> 01:15:07,940 Tim Van Norman: Okay. Anything else I can answer? Well, thank 983 01:15:07,940 --> 01:15:13,640 you very much. My next presentation is three o'clock 984 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,570 tomorrow. So I've got three o'clock, Tuesday, Wednesday, 985 01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:26,630 Thursday now and tomorrow. I don't remember what my topic is. 986 01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:29,750 Fortunately, I got my presentation done over the weekend. But 987 01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:32,540 Audience Member(s): Thank you Tim. Thanks. Again. 988 01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:34,730 Tim Van Norman: Thank you guys. Thank you everybody for showing 989 01:15:34,730 --> 01:15:36,740 up and I hope this was useful. 990 01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:38,570 Donna King: Good to see everybody. 991 01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:42,350 Tim Van Norman: Thank you. 992 01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:47,250 Audience Member(s): Thank you.